tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post113598100773362394..comments2024-01-04T02:49:23.470-08:00Comments on Blessing of Kings: Paladins in Raids, Part IRohanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-91383431283802958512008-09-09T12:00:00.000-07:002008-09-09T12:00:00.000-07:00My main is a T4.5 geared healadin on Anvilmar serv...My main is a T4.5 geared healadin on Anvilmar server and I have no problems out healing Shamies, Druids or priest's with the same gear level. <BR/><BR/>A main benefit of having a plate healer is to keep aggro off of the clothies. They can take multiple big hits and keep on going while the other can not. By running Righteous Defence the Pali aggro will be higher than that of a Priest but lower than the tank. <BR/><BR/>My only complaint is that we need some sort of cc ability. In WOTLK shamies will be getting a polimorph ability leaving the pali as the only class without sustainable cc (with the exception of undead).<BR/><BR/>All in all, I enjoy playing a healadin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-62413813600729461572008-07-20T11:37:00.000-07:002008-07-20T11:37:00.000-07:00Im a ret pally on winndrunner and i have to dissag...Im a ret pally on winndrunner and i have to dissagre with the ppl that say a pally cant dps just as good as any other class, im almost always in the top 10 on damage meaters, and befor you say o well the other ppl are bad where a bt raiding guild,a pally can tank heal and dps just as good as any other class if you know how to play one :)--tolarianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-55450456052361370492008-07-06T01:43:00.000-07:002008-07-06T01:43:00.000-07:00I have a 70 paladin on windrunner. It is my main,...I have a 70 paladin on windrunner. It is my main, and the only character I really want to play. I chose the class and race because I thought it would suit my personality, and I like it. The problem I have is that paladins imho have severe class issues, such as this: 1) As a RET paladin, you have to compete with mages and rogues, which will ALWAYS outdamage you, and to boot they have crowd control abilities. So there is just no need for a dps pally in a group. 2) If you are chosen to join a group scenario as a healer, they've picked you because no better healer was available. Shamans, druids, and priests all do better, and can deal quite good to phenomenal damage at range by nuking... something paladins can't do. 3) All damage we deal must be in melee range, so we have to RUN to our target before we can start dmg, whereas any nuking class can just switch targets and blam. So this limits our overall damage dealt.<BR/><BR/>In PvP, the talents you really need leave you no options for grouping. You cannot be the tank, and you're not going to be the healer. So you spend 50g to be able to PvP worth a darn, then have to go and respec for another 50g just to be invited into a group that was hard up and didn't really want your class anyway.<BR/><BR/>So the question comes down to... what are we good for? We can't dps, we can't heal as well as others, we can't crowd control, so what is our role? Where do we shine where other classes fall short?<BR/><BR/>My vision when I started this toon was that I would be primarily a melee damage dealer, often a tank, and my healing abilties would be that once in a while lifesaver that came in useful as a pinch. Instead, I am never a damage dealer. I am also never a tank, because warriors do that better, and there are plenty of them to go around. So what I'm asked to do and needed for is healing, which was the last thing I wanted to do when I made a plate class character that carries swords. (If I wanted to heal, wouldn't I be wearing robes or something?)<BR/><BR/>I think blizzard needs to take a look at the paladin class and give it something to be proud of. Investing 750 hours into a character only to find you've wasted your time on something that is generally outclassed on every ability (and the one ability you are needed for you only do 4th best relative to other classes) is frustrating, to say the least.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-64412914213701095702008-05-07T03:58:00.000-07:002008-05-07T03:58:00.000-07:00I found the first comment funny and an eye-opener ...I found the first comment funny and an eye-opener to how much more versatile palladins are nowadays for raidguilds. Heck, it's true for almost all classes that they can now bring multiple viable builds to a raid and it isn't as much cooky cutter as it was in the 'old days'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-39022409408183461222007-09-25T10:00:00.000-07:002007-09-25T10:00:00.000-07:00I realize I come a month later myself but... check...I realize I come a month later myself but... check the date of the post. Even better, read the mention of MC as being raiding content. This post is before BC. Pre-2.0 paladins were really expected (and able) to do pretty much everything at the same time, due to generic (read: poor) itemization mainly, and we were abysmal healers, let me tell you. Our function was keeping a baseline of constant healing so the 'real' healers could bring the tank back to green numbers.Pekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16279779881317201824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-67349893225731020562007-08-28T22:51:00.000-07:002007-08-28T22:51:00.000-07:00OK I have to disagree. Pallies are the best end g...OK I have to disagree. Pallies are the best end game healers. Im in all epics holy priest and pallies can out heal me all the time. The thing is they are best at single target healing ie. main tank healer. Shamans as healers are the best group healers ie healin more than 1 person. Druids are the best with hots ie keeping people alive through spell inturupts. The priest is an all arround healer he can MT heal, group heal, and heal over time. The priest isnt the best at any "type" of healing but is pretty good at each "type" of healing.Gulubdurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00551791948467729180noreply@blogger.com