tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post1171816552110723677..comments2024-01-04T02:49:23.470-08:00Comments on Blessing of Kings: Holy Paladin Spec and Glyphs in 4.0.1Rohanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-38268967705487802582010-12-13T14:26:18.329-08:002010-12-13T14:26:18.329-08:00WAS wondering if Tower of Radiance is a need in pv...WAS wondering if Tower of Radiance is a need in pvp.? cause i think i will use my beacon of light on my self:Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-47891659880210899802010-11-26T07:20:07.651-08:002010-11-26T07:20:07.651-08:00Now that LoD is Holy Power related Eternal Glory i...Now that LoD is Holy Power related Eternal Glory is looking better, when in an encounter with sufficient aoe damage popping LoD would be automatic to have not consumed my hp would be awesome. Obviously I know it only has a 30% chance of not consuming. Also I've been finding LoD very helpful for P3 lk hc throne room.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-21473099627108737992010-11-08T21:35:10.321-08:002010-11-08T21:35:10.321-08:00I will say that I agree with Dante above. The heal...I will say that I agree with Dante above. The healadin is far more diverse than it used to be. With the choice of utilizing an optional HoT or going with range and instant heals, one has far more to work with than before. I have found both types to be effective in healing while playing on my alts. I personally choose to spam Holy Light while using HS and WoG as back ups. FoL is a great spell for moments when many people within your party or raid need a quick re-fill on health too. Over-all It's exciting to see such a debate spark up among fellow healadins! As far a Glyphs go. I've been messing around with many of them and still haven't quite found a great mix. I do think, though, that it all depends on how mana-efficient one wants to be (not that us paladins aren't mana-efficient already).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-17734094422430182622010-11-04T03:50:05.939-07:002010-11-04T03:50:05.939-07:00About the minor glyphs, as BoK and the drood buff ...About the minor glyphs, as BoK and the drood buff are now the same, I'll just take the Lay on Hands, Blessing of Might and Seal of insight. I NEVER cast a BoK in a raid as it erase the druid buff, only cast BoM after a BRez.klakettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09570861795186828612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-72325763351807512552010-10-19T11:29:25.810-07:002010-10-19T11:29:25.810-07:00I find that combining 3/3 Tower of Radiance with t...I find that combining 3/3 Tower of Radiance with the Glyph of Beacon allows me to simply cast cheap holy lights on the tank and build up HP until I get a WoG. That with 2/2 Eternal Glory lets me jump around the group with free heals. Add that to using HS to heal group and gaining and maintaining 3 HP is very easy. <br /><br />Considering the mana cost of Holy Light and HS, plus the free WoG for big heals and I have no problems with mana or putting out enough healing to keep everyone topped off. If you need oh crap healing, a HS and a WoG is an easy way to top off a tank since you will always have charges of HP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-58796545293922583262010-10-17T12:09:32.294-07:002010-10-17T12:09:32.294-07:00The Light of Dawn glyph is a net increase in heali...The Light of Dawn glyph is a net increase in healing overall. The cooldown reduction outweighs the loss in healing per cast.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-10020037045068440332010-10-17T03:06:51.674-07:002010-10-17T03:06:51.674-07:00"Light of Dawn is a 20% increase in effective..."Light of Dawn is a 20% increase in effectiveness if you are using it on cooldown."<br /><br />Doesn't the wording mean it's a *reduction* in effectiveness of 20%? I read it as "you can cast it more often but it heals for less"...Merlothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12268596977879215079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-79638939942541585362010-10-16T07:54:09.326-07:002010-10-16T07:54:09.326-07:00Blessed Life 2/2 is a must have if you do Arthas o...Blessed Life 2/2 is a must have if you do Arthas or any ICC-hardmodes as holy. You have massive raid-damage and you gain holy power all the time = free heals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-45973613026773093502010-10-15T09:36:12.072-07:002010-10-15T09:36:12.072-07:00I think the developers achieved what they were goi...I think the developers achieved what they were going after in that one person may prefer particular glyphs/talents over others, with none being particularly the "good/bad" way to go.<br /><br />It's triggered a healthy debate for the healadin community.<br /><br />I'm up in the air on Long Word. Losing the SS/FoL HoT, unless I'm missing something, it doesn't look like we've got a HoT anymore unless we take that glyph. Adding that with the 30% chance of not consuming Holy Power is something to be considered<br /><br />With Beacon of Light being a relatively easy cast and lasting 60 secs, I don't understand taking it over other glyphs for an extra 30 seconds unless unless it's to preserve mana. I can't see passing on Divine Plea for that. (In addition, being able to learn all glyphs once and switch them out as needed is an additional factor to consider).<br /><br />And there other topics also. I haven't been able to try out the variations yet to determine what's going to work best for me.<br /><br />I wonder, though, about the tuning through levels. I feel fairly certain it's ironed out for 85. Not so sure about levels building up to that though.<br /><br />Everyone makes good points for their arguments on all sides. I think the days of cookie cutting are behind us and we're going to see more diversity in the healadin community, which is a good thing.Dantenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-62683289548852456602010-10-15T05:50:41.812-07:002010-10-15T05:50:41.812-07:00It probably takes longer to obtain 3 charges of HP...It probably takes longer to obtain 3 charges of HP then there will be a neccesaty to re-spell WoG with the long word glyph. Combine it with the mastary bubble, and the Long Word glyph gives u a better Heal management when u are raid healing. I personaly going for the short range Judge and LoDawn improvement to become a better melee healer, being as close I can be to melee group. The aura mastery talent is needed for this to counter interrupt spells etc.<br />Glyph Divinity is rubbish, I use LoH once every other year, it still is a tank heal panicbutton.Lightsaviorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05362508498482474745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-47166038135098228902010-10-14T18:53:44.350-07:002010-10-14T18:53:44.350-07:00Updated. Not sure what happened to the WoWTal buil...Updated. Not sure what happened to the WoWTal builds.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-48920421089931334552010-10-14T18:19:25.074-07:002010-10-14T18:19:25.074-07:00Looks like the builds have all disappeared (I'...Looks like the builds have all disappeared (I'm getting a blank calculator). Can they be reposted?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-9572742886334268182010-10-14T12:38:31.211-07:002010-10-14T12:38:31.211-07:00@Johnny: "Long Word is an absolutely terrible...@Johnny: "Long Word is an absolutely terrible glyph. What's worse is that if you have to WoG the same target the hot will overwrite the new one causing you to LOSE healing."<br /><br />Incorrect. Casting a lesser heal simply refreshes the damage bubble, it does not replace it. Check out the buff next time you're messing around with it; the damage absorption bubble simply refreshes, even when a lower heal is cast.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09589015753463806925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-48454981857518229512010-10-13T04:04:44.789-07:002010-10-13T04:04:44.789-07:00"If you plan on raiding at all, the Divine Pr..."If you plan on raiding at all, the Divine Protection glyph is absolutely GODLY"<br /><br />Agree, especially talented to 40s.<br /><br />Regarding the judgement talents. I'd suggest one of each. You'll have enough hit with only 1/2 and the other will give you 10 yards. I.e. 15 yards without a chance of missing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-88290376412024681542010-10-12T11:52:06.336-07:002010-10-12T11:52:06.336-07:00RIP Bubble Hearth.
RIP DI.
You will be missed.RIP Bubble Hearth.<br /><br />RIP DI.<br /><br />You will be missed.Sadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-13090511665340216252010-10-12T07:06:32.099-07:002010-10-12T07:06:32.099-07:00@Chase I don't think Long Word Major Glyph is...@Chase I don't think Long Word Major Glyph is awful at all. The point of cataclysm is normalizing all healing classes so that no one healer is spamming their strongest suit. And this is very apparent on Beta with [at least] heroic dungeons.<br /><br />We already have massive overhealing, I think Long Word is a great "practice" glyph to start changing the way paladin heals - instead of waiting for HP to drop below certain threshold before we "react" to it - this glyph provides paladin a little more initiative to proactively heal and start to manage/prioritize who to heal by providing more effective over-time healing vs. one time effective/overheal cut-off. <br /><br />On beta, it is very common to not be able to keep all 5 member of your party topped off, and often we are limited by our GCD and "weaker" A/E capacities - this is why managing what little HoTs and A/E spells that we have is crucial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-32979104264321293472010-10-12T02:26:30.806-07:002010-10-12T02:26:30.806-07:00playing on the PTR i found i used WoG and HS alot,...playing on the PTR i found i used WoG and HS alot, thus any glyph that improves them (not lessening them) is the way to go.<br /><br />I think as a healer, when speccing, ask yourself very simple questions 1. How offten would i use that? and 2. Does it make my heals better?<br />and you can't really go wrongAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-20690647068267756692010-10-11T22:25:18.052-07:002010-10-11T22:25:18.052-07:00Well, I am definitely planning on Eternal Glory fo...Well, I am definitely planning on Eternal Glory for 85. But at 80, mana didn't seem to be that big a deal, so I think the other talents (Crusade/Divinity/Improved Judgement) are more immediately important.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-45974391065418696512010-10-11T21:52:06.855-07:002010-10-11T21:52:06.855-07:00This is what I picked for a spec
http://cata.wowh...This is what I picked for a spec<br /><br />http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#scIbzrduufzhbZzb:maVdsrmzM<br /><br />I went with Divinity, and got Eternal Glory instead of Crusade, and the 40 yard Judgment. <br /><br />Glyph Wise I went with Divine favor instead of WoG, and Divine Plea of Long Word. I just remember how weak the old FoL glyph was, and I know that I am going to want WoG to pack a punch. <br /><br />Also as mentioned, Paragon of Virtue seems to be a pretty nice talent for both output and survivability.Sevo314https://www.blogger.com/profile/07066167741060820768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-83585496648597939732010-10-11T20:23:29.614-07:002010-10-11T20:23:29.614-07:00A few things:
Glyph of Long Word does not exist. ...A few things:<br /><br />Glyph of Long Word does not exist. On beta, on PTR, on live. Sorry. It's also bad. In an environment where there is a lot less overhealing, halving your initial heal serves zero purpose.<br /><br />Eternal Glory is borderline OP. Not sure why none of your builds even think about it.<br /><br />Long Ranged Judge isn't 4 points. It's 2 in Holy, 2 In Ret, you don't need both. 30 yard judge is plenty, at 2 points. <br /><br />Glyph of Divine Protection, and Paragon of Virtue (another amazing talent you skip over completely) are VERY good for raiding in an environment where healing is limited and damage mitigation is king.<br /><br />Last Word isn't very good at 80 (or 85). People below 35% are usual dead. How often are you going to have 3 HP exactly when someone hits below 35%? Before anyone else heals them? 1/50 fights.Amusedhttp://Not Impressednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-4387424516701282002010-10-11T13:16:13.519-07:002010-10-11T13:16:13.519-07:004 talent points for long-range Judgements. Is it ...4 talent points for long-range Judgements. Is it me, or does that seem VERY expensive (8 points in terms of today's talent trees)?<br /><br />I think it is safe to argue that we are the most durable healing class, given the plate armor and shield. Without having seen any Beta content, I just wonder if this is a push toward putting Paladin's closer to (in the No Man's Land between casters and melee) or into melee range, silence mechanics notwithstanding.<br /><br />It would certainly be another way to differentiate the class.Forreststumpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-85369353908120447842010-10-11T09:25:01.046-07:002010-10-11T09:25:01.046-07:00The thing about Protector of the Innocent is that ...The thing about Protector of the Innocent is that it effectively allows you to heal 3 people at the same time: yourself, your target, and the Beacon target.<br /><br />I think never having to really worry about your own health will be more important than reducing cooldowns.<br /><br />joeego, that's a good point about both Blessing minor glyphs.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-86605150298794620522010-10-11T09:15:55.347-07:002010-10-11T09:15:55.347-07:00The main question I've seen on the Long Word g...The main question I've seen on the Long Word glyph is if it operates like the original FoL glyph, providing 50% extra healing overall. The language appears similar. If it does provide extra healing then I can see it being useful in a 25man raid where a lot more targets are taking damage and locking some of them from additional WoG is less of a problem.<br /><br />The minor glyphs for both Blessings look like a better choice than for the Seal. I know I spend a lot more mana in combat re-blessing resurrected players than I ever do refreshing my Seal because I forgot beforehand.<br /><br />My instincts are telling me 1/2 Enlightened Judgements should provide decent +Hit. Losing a small amount of range is a good trade for Eternal Glory or the other tier 1 Ret & Prot talents.<br /><br />Protector of the Innocent looks a little silly, but 2/3 there helps me heal better than 2/3 Arbiter.<br /><br />Paragon of Virtue looks very handy and going 2/2 there seems more useful than having 1 more point available for the other trees.<br /><br />I'm looking at the following for lvl 85: http://wowtal.com/#k=kmIpOCxmD.a5o.paladin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-37456518981272824272010-10-11T02:50:48.634-07:002010-10-11T02:50:48.634-07:00Why 3 points in Protector of Innocent instead of P...Why 3 points in Protector of Innocent instead of Paragon of Virtue? (I'm sorry if I sound rude but I mean it as a honest question.)<br /><br />I planned to use 2/3 PotI and maybe even only 1 point in Enlightened Judgements to get Paragon of Virtue: I think I (or other healers) can and will have to heal myself if I get any damage and so much self-healing is not needed; 5-yard range is not a great improvement since I only have 40 yards on my heals and 30 yards on LoD. Regarding the hit rating from Enlightened Judgements, I'll aim for 99%+ hit on judgements and I'll see whether I need a point or two.<br />This: http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#sMIbzrkuufz at level 69 (or with 2 points in Enlightened and 1 point in PoV)<br /><br />However, I haven't played in beta or PTR and I found a couple of people taking 3/3 PotI so I'm wondering what's so good about it that I'm missing thanks to my low experience?Imaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-3368485240804329502010-10-11T02:02:39.183-07:002010-10-11T02:02:39.183-07:00Long Word is an absolutely terrible glyph. What...Long Word is an absolutely terrible glyph. What's worse is that if you have to WoG the same target the hot will overwrite the new one causing you to LOSE healing.<br /><br />If you plan on raiding at all, the Divine Protection glyph is absolutely GODLY.Lebeaubynighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724647726081114019noreply@blogger.com