tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post1881438875206583933..comments2024-01-04T02:49:23.470-08:00Comments on Blessing of Kings: My Ideal GuildRohanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-11298574591182145372009-03-10T01:35:00.000-07:002009-03-10T01:35:00.000-07:00I think such ideals are of a guild most would like...I think such ideals are of a guild most would like to be apart of myself included.<BR/><BR/>Finding such a guild though it may exist is what is and would be most elusive.Ardent Defenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13162904795741307697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-56780338067555579322009-01-02T09:32:00.000-08:002009-01-02T09:32:00.000-08:00I've been an avid reader of your blog for quite a ...I've been an avid reader of your blog for quite a while, and I think you might be very happy in my guild, Sleepless Knights on Cenarion Circle. We are going to be focusing primarily on 10-man content, and while we have a laid-back attitude, our players are all talented, know their classes well and come to raids prepared. Please check out our forums at www.sleeplessknights.cc/forum. My handle there is Phaedro if you have any questions at all. Thanks for BoK!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-32067367354230825912008-12-24T09:46:00.000-08:002008-12-24T09:46:00.000-08:00"I am tired of adolescent male bravado" - well, yo..."I am tired of adolescent male bravado" - well, you aint gonna get rid of it too quickly, its endemic to our gender, I'm afraid. Adult males have a more sophisticated version of it, but at its core, its the same male ego. <BR/><BR/>We have one guy in our guild like that atm. He's the highest dps consistently, the best geared player (from another guild), and tends to stay alive well etc etc in fights. But I deliberately dont invite him to my groups because of his superior attitude. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I find it repulsive, and it causes other players to be far less than their best. I hope he gets kicked :) and I will not be shy in letting other people know why I'm not choosing him for a run. <BR/><BR/>If you're guild leaders dont make decisions based on these sorts of considerations too, your runs are going to be a lot more painful and unsuccessful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-76475816521477193062008-12-22T20:02:00.000-08:002008-12-22T20:02:00.000-08:00Very nice set of ideals. Think I'll take this and ...Very nice set of ideals. Think I'll take this and re-post on our guild's forums if that's ok (crediting appropriately ofc)Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-66683716043171852982008-12-21T17:10:00.000-08:002008-12-21T17:10:00.000-08:00If you have enough contacts/friends on your server...If you have enough contacts/friends on your server to form one, you should consider starting your own guild. You don't even have to be the guild leader if you link up with someone you trust to do a good job. All it takes in Wrath is to find like 12 people to have a fun raiding time, and branch from there. Or shop around and transfer, there are lots of differences between realms, some just have more depth. It sounds to me like the problem could be Skywall, not sure why you went back unless you have friends there. There is no fate but what we make.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10041659732901806510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-46560665528163597642008-12-19T14:36:00.000-08:002008-12-19T14:36:00.000-08:00Dang it!I've contemplated resubbing for two weeks....Dang it!<BR/><BR/>I've contemplated resubbing for two weeks. I've even reinstalled WoW.<BR/><BR/>If you find a guild like this or start your own post a guild recruitment link.<BR/><BR/>I can't resist much longer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-90712372986846767052008-12-19T12:52:00.000-08:002008-12-19T12:52:00.000-08:00We used a loot system like what you describe. And...We used a loot system like what you describe. And then I toyed around with some kind of DKP system.<BR/><BR/>What we finally settled on, and like quite a bit, is:<BR/><BR/>Master looter + /random<BR/><BR/>No irrevocable decisions are made until the loot master makes them happen. Everyone has plenty of time to discuss who gets what. The loot master can call out the people who get priority on an item (tank plate goes to the paladin, not to my DPS DK) so that everyone knows who's supposed to be rolling.<BR/><BR/>We only do 5 man content at this point, though we have the numbers to do 10 man stuff. But it worked in Kara as well.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps this only works because everyone more or less knows everyone else at this point, or because people trust me particularly (as I'm usually the loot master). I dunno. But it sure as hell beats bookkeeping.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13185778323826500331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-66781126505103316052008-12-19T10:08:00.000-08:002008-12-19T10:08:00.000-08:00The cynical side of me says "Doesn't exist, you'll...The cynical side of me says "Doesn't exist, you'll never find it."<BR/><BR/>The realist side of me says "It's probably there, but you won't find it."<BR/><BR/>My guild shoots for pretty much what you've outlined here as well, but I won't lie because we fall short.<BR/><BR/>We try to help the 'weak' by pointing them in the direction of blogs and websites to get better. We assist with enchants, gems, etc. We inform them of buffs, rotations, etc.<BR/><BR/>Yet we're pretty quick to mock them when they ask us the same question for the umpteenth time. And our patience then runs thin and rude things do get said. Like offering, for a modest fee, to make heroic keys for Wrath after we explained an hour ago that there are none.<BR/><BR/>Point is there will always be players that test the ultimate limits of officers' patience. There will always be players whose egos are too large or too fragile. Too many personalities not to be able to find that 'perfect' guild.<BR/><BR/>I do believe you can get close. Good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-54024362420720217382008-12-18T19:08:00.000-08:002008-12-18T19:08:00.000-08:00I'd just like to thank you for writing such an int...I'd just like to thank you for writing such an interesting blog, post after post. I read a lot, but the content has to be good to hold my attention. I find myself coming back to your blog on a regular basis. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and thoughts. You do a GREAT job!<BR/><BR/>Take CareAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-75386344467691766272008-12-18T16:08:00.000-08:002008-12-18T16:08:00.000-08:00Jezrael, your guild sounds really cool. But one da...Jezrael, your guild sounds really cool. But one day a week seems too little. If you have to sit out, you don't get to raid that week at all.<BR/><BR/>Also, I'm not really an RP person.<BR/><BR/>Metrogamer, fast is more complex than that. If someone needs to afk for 5 min, they afk <I>and the raid continues without them</I>. But still, most people don't need to afk as much as they do (except parents with young children).<BR/><BR/>As for RL taking precedence over gaming, the people you game with are also real people. If you wouldn't ditch a RL friend for reason X, you shouldn't ditch your raid for reason X.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-56379762942840822022008-12-18T14:06:00.000-08:002008-12-18T14:06:00.000-08:00And note: No amount of participation is mandatory...And note: No amount of participation is mandatory - EVER. Sign up if you want to go, don't sign up if you don't. VERY simple =)Heywood Djiblomihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01424315448841746864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-87672948685523448842008-12-18T13:58:00.000-08:002008-12-18T13:58:00.000-08:00Three 25-man progression nights a week for 3-4 ho...Three 25-man progression nights a week for 3-4 hours each (Fri-Sun); 10-mans at various times rest of the week at your leisure; mature crowd (very few under 18 admitted), with many couples/families who play; no DKP - roll for main, then for off-spec, then alt. Currently recruiting Ret/Holy Paladins, Mages, Shaman, Priests, Resto Druids (though, if we like the person and their app, we'll admit other classes/specs, too). We don't demand people play a CERTAIN spec all the time - though perhaps occasionally for specific encounters (ex: HKM mage-tank, Leotheras lock-tank), and even then we look for volunteers.<BR/><BR/>Roll an alt on Steamwheedle Cartel (US-RP/PvE), and strike up a conversation! #3 Alliance progression, while being casual - we make it work =)Heywood Djiblomihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01424315448841746864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-89296973556103159932008-12-18T12:45:00.000-08:002008-12-18T12:45:00.000-08:00sounds like what I have been after for a while, I ...sounds like what I have been after for a while, I have gone from softcore to hardcore and in the end what I learned is that it is not how many nights you raid but how quickly your raid can go from 25 mistakes to under the success threshold. I saw the struggles of nihlium and sk, and the equivalent on my own server, And I know that with the right team any of the bosses could be downed faster.<BR/><BR/>I just want a guild with people willing to take the time and effort to make however often we raid a success. Last night I pugged OS, both10 and 25 man groups could have downed at least 1 additional drake. The talent is out there it just needs someone to focus it.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18415648946567949701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-62267995144829783232008-12-18T10:23:00.000-08:002008-12-18T10:23:00.000-08:00Perhaps its time you started a guild Coriel. Based...Perhaps its time you started a guild Coriel. Based on these ideals I am certain people would flock to it, but in order to keep it that way you would have to be picky about who to accept and who not to accept.<BR/><BR/>I'd go back to Skywall to join.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-81082608694543468082008-12-18T10:18:00.000-08:002008-12-18T10:18:00.000-08:00This should be what a guild strives for. I hope yo...This should be what a guild strives for. I hope you find it, or as close to it as you can. and is good advice for GM's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-92222647905757330402008-12-18T09:51:00.000-08:002008-12-18T09:51:00.000-08:00The funniest thing I ever read was your post about...The funniest thing I ever read was your post about how someone found the perfect hardcore/casual balance. . .<BR/><BR/>Best of luck with your search. . .Fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17653252976648480240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-35970566059085186342008-12-18T09:28:00.000-08:002008-12-18T09:28:00.000-08:00The real question is could you find an organizatio...The real question is could you find an organization in real life similar to all the ideals you have for a guild? Also, what is "ideal" for you is not necessarily "ideal" for the next person. <BR/><BR/>I am in the best alliance guild on our server and we have only one thing left to clear, sart 3 drakes, and I have to say we only raid 2 nights a week atm and we are very good. Our loot structure with the inclusion of selfless members allows for ideal loot distribution considering we use dkp. <BR/><BR/>Nevertheless, it is quite difficult to foster or expect an environment of ideal and mature nature when the population of this virtual world consists of such various age groups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-90557143284239410662008-12-18T09:24:00.000-08:002008-12-18T09:24:00.000-08:00When youve found this guild, can you tell me pleas...When youve found this guild, can you tell me please. I'm looking for the same thing :DTeam Peashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07478012639214608855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-30682438277690562232008-12-18T08:23:00.000-08:002008-12-18T08:23:00.000-08:00That sounds... just phenomenal./wistful sighThat sounds... just phenomenal.<BR/><BR/>/wistful sighAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-38843018400044500302008-12-18T08:21:00.000-08:002008-12-18T08:21:00.000-08:00You don't have to help them. You just have to not ...You don't have to help them. You just have to not mock them. It's taking that extra step to make fun of them that I dislike.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-84382872949911923662008-12-18T08:03:00.000-08:002008-12-18T08:03:00.000-08:00In "Not Mock Casuals" section you mention that the...In "Not Mock Casuals" section you mention that the strong should guide the weak. I am all for that. However, let me pose this to you. My friend is a warlock and already having a high level warlock I thought it would be beneficial for her to gain some of my knowledge of the class. She didn't take kindly to my help, she wanted to learn on her own. So now I tend to not do either for some people wish to learn for themselves or do not appreciate unsolicited advice. Be wary of this but don't be a dick.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04961249348703369666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-8633004795366614852008-12-18T06:37:00.000-08:002008-12-18T06:37:00.000-08:00It would be wonderful if a guild like that existed...It would be wonderful if a guild like that existed. Have you ever thought of making your own? You're already a fairly popular blogger, so it would probably take off pretty well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-74401976073735787262008-12-18T06:22:00.000-08:002008-12-18T06:22:00.000-08:00Echoing that this sounds like my guild, so don't g...Echoing that this sounds like my guild, so don't give up hope on finding one that matches your ideals. Our loot distribution might not work for you, depending on your outlook, as we use loot council. Not exactly fast, but we trust it to be fair and it balances reward for effort and reward for guild progression pretty well. But everything else we do is almost an exact match for your criteria, so I'm sure there are people out there who share your outlook on the game.<BR/><BR/>Thing is, guilds like that probably are pretty happy with where they are. For my guild, we never had much drama or turnover because we ARE competent and make progress, and the people in the guild don't overvalue loot. Sure, we've lost people who felt they were being slighted, or wanted to get into WotLK raiding faster (we're starting in January). But we're still pretty healthy, and almost all of the departures were amicable. As a result, we've never recruited or advertised much. So you may have your work cut out for you finding guilds like you want, they may be very low profile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-44735895191580040992008-12-18T00:06:00.000-08:002008-12-18T00:06:00.000-08:00I don't know if it was a unique experience or what...I don't know if it was a unique experience or what, but I've been in 3 different casual raiding guilds mostly made of friends and family, and each one of them has been full of exceptional players. I find that this is because the better players aren't as afraid or cautious about speaking their mind to those who don't perform as well because they are familiar with the person. In my current guild the same suit follows. I do my best to help my guildies perform more effectively, and that in turn improves the quality of the guild.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-74285431735795204272008-12-17T23:26:00.000-08:002008-12-17T23:26:00.000-08:00I pretty much share the same sentiments except for...I pretty much share the same sentiments except for the 'fast' part. A lot of things can happen and RL always take precedence over raiding for me, delays can and will happen.<BR/><BR/>My ideal guild would be a bunch of real life friends and not some people who'd shout on anyone at the drop of a hat on vent.<BR/><BR/>I guess I'm casual like that, don't hate me :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com