tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post2214227316405179885..comments2024-01-04T02:49:23.470-08:00Comments on Blessing of Kings: Bloodlust TimingRohanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-65450296956846329002011-02-21T23:50:34.285-08:002011-02-21T23:50:34.285-08:00The math seems right, but how about in PvP?
When ...The math seems right, but how about in PvP?<br /><br />When I play arathi basin, hero is so important to take blacksmith. Same thing for the initial fight in WSG. In arena, however, the usage of heroism was a huge question. The best thing is heroism scales with crowd controls.<br /><br />Now that they took hero away from arena, we need to do the math on how it helps BG teams. Does hero help cap flag timers?lvl86http://lvl86.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-76565233242137297272009-11-13T23:22:41.307-08:002009-11-13T23:22:41.307-08:00There's also the issue of popping cooldowns wh...There's also the issue of popping cooldowns while inside BL vs outside. Personal cooldown contribution to overall DPS increases while inside bloodlust.<br /><br />Also, sated wears off upon death so if anyone dies and is resurrected again can be bloodlusted again for additional DPS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-68879419333550270622009-03-26T00:30:00.000-07:002009-03-26T00:30:00.000-07:00I see you have the same sort of posts that I did.N...I see you have the same sort of posts that I did.<BR/>Never fear, there's a TTT entry coming up soon with more math, more reason, and simcraft graphs to back it up (hopefully then people will stop arguing that we're wrong)Binkensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734442576826588855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-42321192424550504592009-03-10T00:52:00.000-07:002009-03-10T00:52:00.000-07:00The flaw with your math is that you are oversimpli...The flaw with your math is that you are oversimplifying. Bloodlust does not just plainly increase your damage by 30%, it increases your haste by 30%. An increase in haste has a whole slew of different effects for certain classes, most notably warriors who will see an incredible increase in DPS due to their near infinite rage generation. You should recalculate using more intricate specifications.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-28043038160707854982009-03-04T15:48:00.000-08:002009-03-04T15:48:00.000-08:00We normally wait untill the last 30% ish , but its...We normally wait untill the last 30% ish , but its definitely a valid point about using it earlier, in case people die earlier on, and losing the extra dps/healing ( and who knows that extra healing might have saved that person.. )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-60519848517096090622009-03-03T22:56:00.000-08:002009-03-03T22:56:00.000-08:00It's completely dependent on the encounter. There ...It's completely dependent on the encounter. There is no universal "moment."Ferarrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14268938786958814482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-51240943533303140082009-03-03T10:41:00.000-08:002009-03-03T10:41:00.000-08:00I don't agree really. At the moment the fights are...I don't agree really. At the moment the fights are so trivial that noone should be dieing on the majority of bosses and therefore there is no argument for using heroism at the start "since people wont survive."<BR/>Samownall - <A HREF="http://www.worldofwarcraftblogger.com" REL="nofollow">WoW Blog</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-71838231627142863102009-03-03T09:48:00.000-08:002009-03-03T09:48:00.000-08:00Nevermind, I see where I didn't get it. I can't e...Nevermind, I see where I didn't get it. I can't edit my comment though, sorry.<BR/><BR/>Feel free to delete.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-2855926248799293862009-03-03T09:45:00.000-08:002009-03-03T09:45:00.000-08:00Maybe I missed something, but in your "bloodlust l...Maybe I missed something, but in your "bloodlust late" example, you divided the health by 1200 instead of 1000.<BR/><BR/>It should be 287 seconds, not 240.<BR/>I think so at least, from what I see there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-30311515401888334162009-03-03T08:33:00.000-08:002009-03-03T08:33:00.000-08:00The math fails to take into consideration the hast...The math fails to take into consideration the haste coefficient above and below the execute phase.<BR/><BR/>Affliction Warlocks and Fury Warriors (at least at a certain gear level) both receive an added benefit from the haste inside of execute range, that doesn't occur outside.<BR/><BR/>For fury warriors at least, bloodlust/heroism during execute phase means dumping the excess rage into execute. Outside of the phase, you're dumping into the much less-efficient heroic strikeUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11477987871502957830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-23440941564415852232009-03-03T08:30:00.000-08:002009-03-03T08:30:00.000-08:00The one place I found a late heroism to be actuall...The one place I found a late heroism to be actually important, was on 3m Patchwerk attempts. <BR/><BR/>We needed the first two min to gauge if we were on track for a kill (~33-36%) before poping it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15933367423903579013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-68231569631554282692009-03-02T21:51:00.000-08:002009-03-02T21:51:00.000-08:002/3s in is what I think is best. People are still...2/3s in is what I think is best. People are still alive, and alot of the on hit, stacking has occured, and should help maximize it best.<BR/><BR/>Also, with the next patch you'll only get one bloodlust/heroism per fight.Pangoria Fallstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01148359926488188195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-69177730573861022332009-03-02T15:54:00.000-08:002009-03-02T15:54:00.000-08:00Yeah I like to have it about 1/3 into a fight, tha...Yeah I like to have it about 1/3 into a fight, that way most of the raid is alive (hopefully), passive-on hit buffs are active ( demonic pact, the blood DK atkpwr buff--forget the name, elemental oath, etc), and the tank has enough aggro that it'd be pretty difficult to pull of him/her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-56689546074289332302009-03-02T07:14:00.000-08:002009-03-02T07:14:00.000-08:00Ack, that's very counter-intuitive but it's true. ...Ack, that's very counter-intuitive but it's true. I had to read thru the original math a few times.<BR/><BR/>I think a way to make it more intuitive is to think of a boss kill on a videotape. Heroism is the fast forward button. You get to hold down fast forward for exactly 40 seconds at any point in the tape you like. Obviously you can't make the tape finish any faster no matter when you push it.Moxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16937693691176874519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-10670484555686866682009-03-02T06:49:00.000-08:002009-03-02T06:49:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Moxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16937693691176874519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-77176716996301799752009-03-02T06:27:00.000-08:002009-03-02T06:27:00.000-08:00Using heroism at the beginning also starts the coo...Using heroism at the beginning also starts the cooldown so it'll be ready sooner. You know...if shaman are ultra rare on your server and your guild only has one. =)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-32283967050178952202009-03-02T03:11:00.000-08:002009-03-02T03:11:00.000-08:00I also am a huge heroism fan (isnt everyione) but ...I also am a huge heroism fan (isnt everyione) but i tend to go for the begining of the fight to pop it out when im raid leading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-49751530488879165532009-03-02T02:31:00.000-08:002009-03-02T02:31:00.000-08:00I tagged you for a screenshot meme!!http://retribu...I tagged you for a screenshot meme!!<BR/><BR/>http://retribution-paladin.blogspot.com/2009/02/my-screenshot-meme.html<BR/><BR/>I love heroism! Its awesome! I usually wait to pop Avenging Wrath till its up. (our raid leaders usually try to pop it early so we have a change to pop it again towards the end on long fights)Alex - aka Firelighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521624147661620610noreply@blogger.com