tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post3866956446455326069..comments2024-01-04T02:49:23.470-08:00Comments on Blessing of Kings: Ask Coriel: PvP Gear from PvERohanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-43980223607917561672008-03-07T08:19:00.000-08:002008-03-07T08:19:00.000-08:00Im hearing this is a PTR only thing, as in they we...Im hearing this is a PTR only thing, as in they were only considering it for PTR use. Although i cant see what the benefit of having it on PTR only would be exactly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-56195843999027030742008-02-26T09:06:00.000-08:002008-02-26T09:06:00.000-08:00I was about to disagree with the "Token for Token"...I was about to disagree with the "Token for Token" ide, because it seem as a cheap way of getting BoJ's , but it makes sense at that level of exchange. 5 marks of almost any BG can be obtained under 2 hours, but 5 of each BG requires more time to accumulate (especially from the Valley where they Sing of War).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-53459508281940725032008-02-25T14:19:00.000-08:002008-02-25T14:19:00.000-08:00Honor / Arena points never really struck me as the...Honor / Arena points never really struck me as the sort of thing that you got extra of. You'd have to have *full* S3/Vindicator before that happens, and I'm not really sure that is that common. Maybe at the really high end. <BR/><BR/>Not like tokens, where some tokens come from an earlier boss that you've been killing for longer than a later boss, or if you've gotten a streak of specific tokens.<BR/><BR/>Now, one thing I could see is trading WSG/AV/AB/EotS tokens for Badges of Justice. You usually end up with a lot of excess battleground tokens while getting the necessary honor for items. Currently, the only real sink for these tokens are the PvP mounts, and really, how many mounts do you need? Badges of Justice (at a sufficiently high exchange rate--maybe 5 of each token, 20 in total) would be a good sink for excess BG tokens.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-40742766163575358852008-02-25T14:04:00.000-08:002008-02-25T14:04:00.000-08:00Actually, I see his point. In a similar sense that...Actually, I see his point. In a similar sense that a player who PvEs primarily would have "extra" tier tokens that they can use to get some entry level PvP gear, a player who PvPs primarily would have "extra" honour/arena points that they can use to get some entry level PvE raiding gear (IE, Badge of Justice gear).<BR/><BR/>I don't really see this requiring additional time any more then having tier tokens give PvP gear does.RJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10492971146589461692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-52917316568942271752008-02-25T08:57:00.000-08:002008-02-25T08:57:00.000-08:00Thanks for the info!My first impression was, "I gu...Thanks for the info!<BR/><BR/>My first impression was, "I guess that the 'PvP welfare epics' turned out to be not-so-'welfare' after all". (Of course, anyone who regularly PvPs already knew that.)<BR/><BR/>My second impression was, "So... Which PvP vendor will sell PvE T4/T5/T6 for Arena points or honor + marks?"<BR/><BR/>Since I couldn't find any indication that PvE gear will be available from PvP vendors, I then seriously wondered "What is Blizz thinking?!" I mean, I'm already reading enough on blogs and forums alleging Blizzard's 'favoritism toward raiders' and that 'casuals subsidize raiding'. Why did Blizz play right into that by opening one-way access from PvE raiding to PvP, but not the other way around? Or is this some sort of reverse-psychology way to try to get people who PvP into raids... to get their PvP gear more easily than in actual PvP?!<BR/> <BR/>So needless to say, at first Blizz confused me on this one. Faction rep vendors selling the old High Warlord stuff sounded kind of weird, and raiding for PvP gear seemed to make little sense unless Blizz did something reciprocal like making PvE Badge gear available through PvP vendors. <BR/><BR/>But looking at the 'big picture' of the 2.3 and PTR 2.4 changes, Blizz seems to be blowing open the doors on gear chases; surely just about everyone can be happy chasing the time sink that fits their taste with leet loot beckoning at the end -- until WotLK really feels imminent, anyway. <BR/><BR/>I would guess that the longer-range purpose of this patch 2.4 change is to nudge the raiders towards the Arena and BGs with this last TBC patch, remembering that patch 2.0 essentially killed WoW 1.0 raiding. Back then, PvP was the 'bridge' that kept raiders from cancelling between WoW patch 2.0 and TBC release. Worked once, should work again, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-6100532240168237342008-02-25T08:45:00.000-08:002008-02-25T08:45:00.000-08:00realmstein, I don't think that makes sense. The id...realmstein, I don't think that makes sense. The idea is to allow a player to get "decent" gear for the other activity as a side-effect of your main activity, <I>without spending additional time</I>.<BR/><BR/>What you propose would require a player to spend *extra* time PvPing for PvE gear.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-49407294629868697092008-02-25T08:28:00.000-08:002008-02-25T08:28:00.000-08:00I just hope they eventually make it so you can buy...I just hope they eventually make it so you can buy badges of justice with honor to make things equally fair.Relmsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10358853054116842043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-2772682945545775882008-02-25T07:56:00.000-08:002008-02-25T07:56:00.000-08:00It's on the PTR. As some of the changes in the PTR...It's on the PTR. As some of the changes in the PTR, this isn't directly documented.<BR/><BR/>But for a link of the report:<BR/>http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/15/pvp-for-pve-on-the-ptr/<BR/><BR/>-- RavAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-47535009377165680162008-02-25T07:12:00.000-08:002008-02-25T07:12:00.000-08:00"The T4/T5/T6 tokens will now allow to pick up PvP..."The T4/T5/T6 tokens will now allow to pick up PvP gear"<BR/><BR/>Where is this change documented?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com