tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post5866790593425142333..comments2024-01-04T02:49:23.470-08:00Comments on Blessing of Kings: What If Paladins Had Stayed Alliance-Only?Rohanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-26539067560719982832013-08-27T04:34:32.909-07:002013-08-27T04:34:32.909-07:00It isn't that Shamans could tank, but that the...It isn't that Shamans could tank, but that they had a number of tanking tools in the toolkit that could have easily made the transition to a fully realized tanking class, including mechanisms for aggro generation, taunts, damage mitigation, and interrupts. <br /><br />It was often commented on at the time that the rockbiter weapon imbue coupled with shield wearing made it seem as if Blizzard <i>wanted</i> shamans to tank. <br /><br />As it was they were bad at it, and bad healers as well.Arcadiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08889041159771345852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-57912624974571717102013-08-26T10:20:19.317-07:002013-08-26T10:20:19.317-07:00You are incorrect. I played a Tauren Shaman start...You are incorrect. I played a Tauren Shaman starting the day after Vanilla released. At very low levels, I was able to tank some instances. We had some nice aggro generating abilities in Earthshock and Rockbiter. With a shield, I could survive tanking up to and including Wailing Caverns, if I choose the leather pieces carefully.<br /><br />After that, however, I stood no chance of surviving as a tank. The upgrade of other classes to plate meant their mitigation was MUCH higher than anything I could get off of chainmail.<br /><br />Also, having raided at the time at the MC/BWL/20 man level, I cannot begin to describe how much easier raiding got with the various pally buffs available. The Shaman totems simply did not come close to matching the utility provided by those buffs. It was WAY more than just Salvation that had an impact.Mensreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07088888987801208047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-67235536427302933492013-08-24T18:35:27.018-07:002013-08-24T18:35:27.018-07:00I didn't play a high level Shaman in vanilla, ...I didn't play a high level Shaman in vanilla, but it was my understanding that they were capable of tanking, something that was lost when the Horde got Pallies. Am I incorrect? Even in Cata, I didn't do too bad as an off-tank Enh Shaman when our Paladin occasionally went down.rowanblazehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820814610269599162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-62391071501097624122013-08-20T12:21:55.231-07:002013-08-20T12:21:55.231-07:00This would have been pretty hard on the Horde'...This would have been pretty hard on the Horde's randoms, being short a tanking class. Perhaps shamans could have been made into a tanking class through their totems (though those are gone now).Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-30294261408038039072013-08-20T06:04:16.886-07:002013-08-20T06:04:16.886-07:00Your last paragraph hit the major problem - the pl...Your last paragraph hit the major problem - the players would have gone ballistic if a new faction-only class had been revealed in Wrath. If they could have worked two new classes in an expansion, say the Monk became a class added to the Alliance when the secrets of Auchindoun were recovered by the Draenei, there would have been balance. I expect that there still would have been outrage on both sides.<br /><br />From a narrowly Alliance perspective this does all make sense. The Alliance is a canvas for the Horde story. It is far more important to add flesh to the Horde bones with Paladin orders and the cultural role of the Shaman than it is to replace structures salvaged from the Alliance to tell the story of Wrath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-79440241410454514402013-08-20T00:02:09.238-07:002013-08-20T00:02:09.238-07:00Well, aside from the Blessing issue, in Burning Cr...Well, aside from the Blessing issue, in Burning Crusade there would have been the problem with roles. Paladins would have had 3 roles vs the 2 Shamans have. That would have given the Alliance a tank option that the Horde lacked.<br /><br />Could there have been a solution to that? I'm sure someone could have thought of something, but the lure of just unshackling Paladins and Shamans was too strong I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com