tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post7869593399701800991..comments2024-01-04T02:49:23.470-08:00Comments on Blessing of Kings: Draft Priorities, Part 2Rohanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-54738524898843974222006-10-13T06:02:00.000-07:002006-10-13T06:02:00.000-07:00The casual guild + raiding guild seems to really b...The casual guild + raiding guild seems to really be a good idea. Looks like it's working.<br /><br />It does bring to mind a question, though, as a guild-less 52 warrior I consider endgame guild options in the near future. <br />A bit of background -- I enjoy questing, and enjoy instances even more... then a family member introduced me to AB, and that was really an adrenaline rush! Though I'll probably eventually choose to raid over PvP with this particular character (prot-specced 52 warrior), my level 39 feral druid alt is definitely very effective and fun in PvP. And there may be a niche for a prot-spec warrior in AV (don't know yet, but I will try it soon).<br /><br />So... How about the person who wants to PvP?<br />Do you have a subgroup within your guilds that is a PvP group?<br />If a demand arose, would that be a 'division' within the raid guild, so that it would be:<br />-- the "hardcore players, level 60 raiders and PvP-ers", or<br />-- grounds to begin and maintain yet a third guild?<br /><br />Thanks for the good posts so far, and I look forward to the discussion!Doeghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495756873615676650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-32919352889655798912006-10-12T14:54:00.000-07:002006-10-12T14:54:00.000-07:00It does take a bit of effort.
Merging doesn't wor...It does take a bit of effort.<br /><br />Merging doesn't work. I tried that originally before I thought to create a raid-only guild.<br /><br />Here's my reasoning for not merging:<br />(oh, and I'm notorious for my lists)<br /><br />-the foundational guild is still family oriented, and has a broad player base; therefore the rules there about cursing, being rude, whatever, are fairly strict; in a raid-only guild, it's a bit more natural to let a bit of cursing happen, and you expect to have more mature players who can operate without being pampered or censored (and much prefer it that way)<br /><br />-having only raiders in my raid guild allows me to, at a glance, see exactly what my resources are. Yes, I could feasibly do that with rankings in a mixed guild (and have tried it), but ultimately it gets way too confusing and unreliable<br /><br />-having a raid guild as a separate guild has more of an impact on players who start in the foundational guild; that it's an active choice, not a natural progression, that moves the player from one guild to the other; and that it takes devotion and determination to stay<br /><br />-it allows me to "retire" people, but not kick them out of the combined framework; so, if someone is consistently absent, but it's someone we like, we can say, hey, you're not really into this raiding thing, so why not hang out in the foundation guild for a bit till you're ready; again, this follows my accountability example, but still sets a bright line between casual and raid<br /><br />-if Blizzard had a better guild system, like, being a member of multiple guilds, I would go for that in a heartbeat, and have a separate guild system within<br /><br />-setting up ranks for a raid group within a catch-all guild that has its own ranking system is overwhelming and nearly impossible to do with the limitations of the game<br /><br />There's so much more that just takes the experience of doing it to realize. But I think everyone is happy with the system in place.Psyaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00685001235355463535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-73873088282046912802006-10-11T22:20:00.000-07:002006-10-11T22:20:00.000-07:00Psyae, sure, feel free to post it.
The two guild ...Psyae, sure, feel free to post it.<br /><br />The two guild solution is interesting, but you must put a lot of effort into maintaining the link between the two guilds. I would guess that the natural inclination is for the two guilds to drift apart.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-76335799298755821172006-10-11T09:32:00.000-07:002006-10-11T09:32:00.000-07:00Hey, it's Psyae.
I'd like to quote your entire "s...Hey, it's Psyae.<br /><br />I'd like to quote your entire "so you wanna be a raider" on my guild's forum as a kind of filter for players who potentially want to join.<br /><br />I'd give proper credits, of course, but would like your "blessing" first. :)<br /><br />Oh, and in regard to the fine line between raid and casual guilds, my solution works like this:<br /><br />-started a guild early on in a server's life, made it family oriented, casual, but also catered to those who wanted to level<br />-when enough people started getting to level 60, they felt the temptation to join already existing hardcore raid guilds to see end-game content and get nice gear<br />-I saw friends disappearing, but I couldn't join them, since I felt an obligation to my guild<br />-my guild had become a "feeder" guild<br />-I didn't like that<br />-so, I made my own raid guild while keeping the old guild as is, and (here's the kicker) I let my old guild continue to be a feeder guild, but feeding to my own raid guild<br />-when we started, we were still having trouble with places like UBRS<br />-now, about three months later, we farm Hakkar, have beaten Kurinnaxx, Rajaxx, and Buru, and we're working on Ossirian, Onyxia, and MC<br />-at the same time, the family oriented, casual guild still exists and is thriving.<br />-anyone in the raid guild who needs a break from raiding can semi-retire by moving to the casual guild, and move back into the raid guild in the future, if desired<br />-the guilds are "sister guilds", and we share a chat channel<br />-raiders from the raid guild often help out the casual guild players do quests and level, and friendships are made and perpetuated (instead of divided between different guilds), and that, in turn, helps the raid guild because some of the casual guild players will eventually advance to the level they need to join the raid guild, and those friendships have already been forged<br />-anyway, it works, but needs a lot of devotion from everyone, especially the guild leader<br /><br />keep up the good work on your blog, I enjoy it, and I wish you luck with your guild!Psyaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00685001235355463535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-738768009899641932006-10-09T18:01:00.000-07:002006-10-09T18:01:00.000-07:00Sorry your guild didn't work out Coriel. I was rea...Sorry your guild didn't work out Coriel. I was really interested in how it would have done in MC and beyond.<br /><br />So what is next for you? I think you shouldn't give because you would make a great guild leader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-30982417542086626922006-10-09T17:41:00.000-07:002006-10-09T17:41:00.000-07:00I think that loot priority also depends on the foc...I think that loot priority also depends on the focus of the guild.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20292755.post-91441644226413959882006-10-08T00:34:00.000-07:002006-10-08T00:34:00.000-07:00Yeah, there is an implicit assumption that your cl...Yeah, there is an implicit assumption that your class leader is on your side when it comes to having gear of different types.<br /><br />But if your class leader isn't, and your guild does priorities, you are pretty much out of luck.Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.com