Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Limited Number of Auctions

Azuriel has a nice post on the problems with the Guild Wars 2 economy. However a couple of comments have proposed limiting the number of auctions that each player can make. They feel that this will cause prices to increase.

This suggestion betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of "supply" in supply and demand. Supply is not just the items available right now. It's also the items could be made available very rapidly. If you have a store, the stuff on your shelves available for purchase is supply, but so is the stuff in the back rooms.

In fact, restricting the number of auctions one can make can drive prices even lower. It introduces the concept of inventory turnover. Once you've maxed out your auctions, inventory space taken up by other objects you could sell is wasted space. You need your auctions to sell quickly so that you can move items out of inventory. To do this, you price items even cheaper, so that they have the highest chance of selling.

This phenomena happens in Diablo 3. Only the best items can command good prices, or are worth the possibility of not selling. Everything else must be sold off cheaply just to clear inventory space.

The only way you can increase prices for most goods is by decreasing supply, or increasing demand. Playing games with the structure of transactions rarely works out as expected.

The only reason to have limits on the number of auctions is to limit the load on your auction house servers. If your servers can at all handle the strain, you're better off allowing as many auctions as possible.


Skypirate said...

They could conceivably decrease the supply of equipment by making sure only humanoid mobs drop weapons/armour.

If resource nodes didn't exist for everyone individually more people would buy resources off the ah but then potentially less people would craft but then crafted items would be rarer.

The trouble with a complex system, any alteration is liable to have a downside and it's difficult to foresee what new mess the law of unintended consequences will create.

Dàchéng said...

Rohan, I so agree with you. Limited auctions does not in the least address the problem. In fact, in my opinion there is no problem, except for a short term oversupply. Not to plug myself, but I wrote a lengthy piece on it yesterday at

Joseph Skyrim said...

Heh, as a consumer I prefer low prices. Coming from other MMO's where players sell stuff for exorbitant prices (which never sell) it's a good change of pace.

If they really want to increase the "demand" on stuff, they should just make it that nothing can be repaired. At least not fully, or have a total number of repairs per item (5 at max) that will never go up.

Yeah, that means your fantastic weapon of annihilation and shiny armor will eventually break. So what? Being "married" to an item is stupid.

That's why I actually like the environmental weapons lying around, and must be one of the few people that use them.